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A Talk with Kent McCray by Little House star Dean Butler

April 24th, 2018

It was such an honor for me to sit down with my friend and colleague, Kent McCray, for The Interviews: An Oral History of Television. As you will hear he is a most worthy subject. I first met Kent in May of 1979 after joining the cast of Little House on the Prairie. It was apparent from the start that there was something special about this series, based on the children’s novels of Laura Ingalls Wilder. Not only was the program a huge ratings success, with audiences regularly numbering 20 million people per week, but it was also beautifully produced on-screen and off. The offices, the set, and the post production operation ran like a fine Swiss watch. The show was always on or under budget, and everybody wanted to be a part of the show’s crew.

On any team, creative or otherwise, esprit de corps always starts at the top. That Michael Landon was among the elite hit-making, multi-talent television stars of his era is well known. Less known to the world at large was Michael’s singular creative partner, Kent McCray, who with his personality, taste, organizational skill, and passion for excellence freed Michael from the details of scheduling and budgeting; ensuring that productions ran smoothly, met deadlines, and stayed within budgets. 

As Kent’s archival interview will reveal, his deep love of production and storytelling dates back to his childhood in Hartford, Connecticut, where he first fell in love with radio drama. Following his college admittance to the Hartford School of Music he became the dedicated and fervently engaged apprentice of Dr. Elemer Nagy, who mentored Kent in every aspect of live opera production. Nagy’s teachings fundamentally transformed Kent’s life and gave him the knowledge that would serve as the rock-solid foundation of his rewarding career.

Kent’s career spanned the earliest days of live television through the dawn of the digital age, where he worked shoulder to shoulder with the likes of Red Skelton, Groucho Marx, Ralph Edwards, Bob Hope, and most enduringly with Michael Landon who called Kent the brother he never had. 

As the industry evolved away from live entertainment, Kent moved into the new genre of filmed television drama production managing and later producing hundreds of episodes of shows like Phillip Marlow, The Outlaws, The High Chaparral, Bonanza, Little House on the Prairie, Father Murphy, and Highway to Heaven, as well as numerous movies for television that included The Miracle Worker, Where Pigeons Go To Die, Loneliest Runner and the moving tribute to Michael Landon following his passing in 1991 – Michael Landon: Memories with Laughter and Love

Kent McCray is a humble, soft spoken man but engaging him about his career in television opens the door to a passionate, inspiring, and instructional guided tour through his era of entertainment. To quote Kent, “I loved what I did and couldn’t wait to get up every morning and go to work." Kent went to work for more than 40 years, teaming with devoted colleagues to create a body of work that is treasured by audiences young, old, and in-between all over the world.

Thank you, Kent, for sharing your story and the gift of your talent with all of us.

-Dean Butler

See the full interview with Kent McCray, here.

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Pamela Fryman: Proving Nice Guys Finish First

April 24th, 2018
Pam Fryman

Lots of words describe director Pamela Fryman. Creative. Collaborative. Brilliant. Thoughtful. Modest. Persistent. But there was one more that stuck with us after sitting with her for The Interviews — kind. It is no wonder to us that Pamela Fryman has had such a long, illustrious career in television — people enjoy working with her.
 
Fryman started her TV career as an intern on The Mike Douglas Show, tasked with pulling the records of deceased guests out of the room full of pre-computer age file cabinets. "And I did it happily," she said. "Being in that building and being able to interact with those people, who were so lovely, was a dream come true."
 
That experience set her on a path towards a career in TV when she was hired on the soap opera Santa Barbara. She worked her way up the ladder from booth PA, to secretary, to assistant director, and finally, to director on her first show. Along the way she was nurtured and encouraged and given opportunities that were very unusual for a young woman in the early 1990s.
 
Since then she has helmed episodes of over 75 shows including Cybill, Friends, Suddenly Susan, and The King of Queens, to name just a few. But the long runs she has had on so many series seem to be the true testament to how much people like to work with her. She directed almost every episode of How I Met Your Mother (196 out of 208) in addition to 95 episodes of Just Shoot Me!, 34 episodes of Frasier, and, to date, has directed almost half of the Netflix reboot of Norman Lear's One Day at a Time.

Once producers work with her, they never want to let her go. And we couldn't help but wonder if this has something to do with her attitude and the vibe she creates on a set. If she could make us feel that warm and fuzzy after just a few hours talking on camera, imagine the mood she sets for actors and crews each and every day.
 
In re-watching her interview, we realized that every answer she gave included the concepts of happiness, joy, respect, and value. Not the words that first pop into your head when thinking about working on stressful Hollywood sets.
 
Here are a few of the inspiring highlights from her interview:
 

On Being a Female Director

Fryman knows she was lucky in her career as a female director -- she was nurtured and didn't face some of the struggles other women have. She hopes to see a future where being a female director is the norm, not the exception. "All I could do was try to pay it forward and the best way to do that is to treat people well. And if there's any legacy attached to my career, I hope it's that people who walked onto my stage felt valued and respected and empowered."

On Her Advice to Aspiring Directors and Producers

Most directors and producers have practical answers to this question, like learn your craft, make a short film, study camera lenses — all words of wisdom to be heeded. But Fryman saw it from another angle. "Be kind. Be strong. Empower people. You've got to work well with others. You've got care about the people around you."

On Her Directing Style

Read any interview with anyone who has worked with her and they will confirm that she is like a den mother, making everyone feel welcome. When we asked about her directing style she stated, "I guess I'm open. I like things to seem like they're a group effort. I like to mold things and yet stay out of the way at the same time. A good day is when you wrap and everybody feels like it was important that they were there."

On Her Proudest Career Achievement

Fryman has such a sunny outlook that she said she has zero regrets. "99% of [my career] has been positive. I don't even know what that other 1% is, I just figured I shouldn't say 100%." When we asked her what she was most proud of, she didn't mention the 196 episodes of How I Met Your Mother or her two Primetime Emmy nominations for directing the show, she simply replied, "That my phone still rings. After all this time people still want me to be a part of what they're doing. That means I'm doing something right."

We couldn't agree more.

Watch Pamela Fryman's full interview here.

- Pop Culture Passionistas

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Happy Birthday to Mister Rogers' King Friday XIII!

April 13th, 2018
King Friday XIII

A very special someone celebrates a birthday today. The honorable King Friday XIII, ruler of Calendarland in Mister Rogers' Neighborhood, is the birthday boy not only today, but every Friday the 13th! King Friday paid us a visit during our 1999 interview with Mr. Rogers and we learned how the King got his name:

Happy birthday, King Friday!!

Watch Fred Rogers' full Archive interview for more in-depth looks at some of your favorite childhood puppets.

- by Adrienne Faillace

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Remembering Steven Bochco

April 2nd, 2018
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We’re sad to learn that show creator/producer Steven Bochco has passed away at the age of 74. He attended the Carnegie Institute of Technology (now Carnegie Mellon University) before moving to Los Angeles and writing for shows including Columbo and Ironside. He went on to create some of the most iconic and groundbreaking dramatic series of all time, including L.A. Law, Hill Street Blues, Doogie Howser, M.D., and NYPD Blue (with David Milch).

Below are some selections from our 2002 interview:

On how Hill Street Blues changed the rules of TV:

On the genesis of LA Law:

On the genesis of NYPD Blue:

Watch Steven Bochco’s full interview and read his obituary in The Hollywood Reporter.

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Wink’s World - DJ, Hit Maker, and Consummate Game Show Host

March 26th, 2018
Wink Martindale

In the winter of 1996, I was doing odd jobs in Hollywood. Some of them very odd, including being a paid studio audience member. Eight bucks an hour. Sounds like an easy gig, but having to sit through four hours of George & Alana was somewhat trying on my buttocks, and my soul. One morning I got the call to go sit in on a taping of a new Disney Television-produced game show called Debt.

I was excited to find that Wink Martindale would be hosting. They only needed to have paid audience members because the show hadn’t started airing yet. I’d been a huge fan of Wink’s when I was a kid, watching Tic Tac Dough every day, and, for a long period, rooting for Guinness Book of World Records-recognized contestant, Thom McKee. As I sat in the audience of Debt, it began to dawn on me: “I could be on this show. I could WIN this show.” It was mostly trivia questions that Gen-Xers would know, and I believe I knew the answer to every single question I saw Wink ask over the three episodes taped that day.

Several months later, I find myself on the set of Debt – not as an audience member this time, but as a contestant. Having handily vanquished my two opponents, I’m now in the bonus, double-or-nothing round. During commercial break, Wink leans over to me and says, “Ya know, John, I gotta tell ya. I just love givin’ away some of the mouse’s money.” “And I love taking it Wink,” I reply. The bonus double-or-nothing question is a complete gift to me. “Name the street that Archie and Edith Bunker lived on in All in the Family.” The two simple words “Hauser Street” increase my winnings to $10,000. It is by far the most surreal experience of my life.

Earlier this year, I was thrilled to have the opportunity to once again meet with Wink Martindale, and discuss his long and varied career. His wife, Sandy, was lovely, and Wink, himself, a complete gentleman. Let’s look at some highlights.

Wink and The King

Wink played a very important role in the rise of Elvis Presley. As a DJ in Memphis, he was the first to give “That’s All Right (Mama)” airplay.  Later on, he gave Elvis his very first television interview.

Wink Tops the Charts

Later, Wink got into the music business, himself. He recorded the classic “Deck of Cards.” The song reached number seven on the Billboard charts and went multi-platinum. It got so big that Wink was asked to perform it on The Ed Sullivan Show.

Wink and the Record Breaker

In 1978, Wink began hosting the show that made him go down in history as a legendary game show host. Tic Tac Dough was a syndicated show, and did pretty well in the ratings. The ratings increased greatly when contestant Thom McKee won 89 games in a row, defeating 43 other contestants. McKee won eight cars, three sailboats, sixteen vacations, and $312,700 dollars. He held the record for most prizes won on a television game show until Ken Jennings came along on Jeopardy! in 2004 and cleaned up.

It was a privilege getting to sit down with Wink Martindale and hear his story. What impressed me most was his great longevity and adaptability. He started as a DJ, became a television host of local, American Bandstand-type dance shows, was a successful game show host, and later morphed into a Gen-X pop culture icon.

And, of course, he was instrumental in me getting some of the mouse’s money! Thanks, Wink!

- John Dalton

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