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"I always say that reality cast members are perishable like fruits and vegetables and they only have a certain shelf life.  You've got to get them at the right moment."

About This Interview

In his three-and-a-half hour Archive interview, Jonathan Murray discusses his career in reality television. He describes his childhood growing up in Syracuse, NY, and recounts studying journalism and broadcast news in college. He talks of producing TV news in Green Bay, Wisconsin and Rochester, NY, getting into station programming, and starting to produce documentaries. He describes the first time he met Mary-Ellis Bunim and forming Bunim-Murray productions, and details the creation of MTV's The Real World -- explaining how casting, shooting, and production of over 25 seasons of the reality program come together. Murray also recalls the creation of several other Bunim-Murray productions, including The Simple Life (starring Paris Hilton and Nicole Richie), The Bad Girls Club, Starting Over, and Keeping Up with the Kardashians. He explains how Bunim-Murray became involved with Project Runway in the show's sixth season, talks of creating Making the Band, and comments on the death of Mary-Ellis Bunim. He shares his thoughts on the current state of reality television, and discusses what he believes lies ahead for the genre. Stephen J. Abramson conducted the interview on December 14, 2011 in Van Nuys, CA.

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Shows

  • American Family, An
  • Bad Girls Club, The
  • Green Acres
  • Keeping Up with the Kardashians
  • Leave it to Beaver
  • Loving
  • Making the Band
  • Project Runway
  • Real World, The
  • Road Rules
  • Simple Life, The
  • Starting Over
  • Survivor

Topics

  • 9/11
  • Censorship / Standards & Practices
  • Criticism of TV
  • Diversity in Television
  • Emmy Awards
  • Memorable Moments on Television

Professions

  • Producer

Featured Content

Jonathan Murray was inducted into the 21st Academy of Television Arts & Sciences Hall of Fame.Emmy Hall of Fame Logo

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Highlights

  • Jonathan Murray on the creation of <i>The Real World</i> and the show changing from scripted to unscriptedJonathan Murray on the creation of The Real World and the show changing from scripted to unscripted
    Clip begins at: 29:26, Duration: 04m 18s
  • Jonathan Murray on how "real" <i>The Real World</i> is <br/>Jonathan Murray on how "real" The Real World is
    Clip begins at: 04:45, Duration: 01m 26s
  • Jonathan Murray on Mary-Ellis Bunim's death and her legacyJonathan Murray on Mary-Ellis Bunim's death and her legacy
    Clip begins at: 09:19, Duration: 02m 40s
  • Jonathan Murray on casting Puck for the San Francisco cast of <i>The Real World</i>Jonathan Murray on casting Puck for the San Francisco cast of The Real World
    Clip begins at: 14:45, Duration: 02m 04s
  • Jonathan Murray on why people love Keeping Up with the KardashiansJonathan Murray on why people love Keeping Up with the Kardashians
    Clip begins at: 38:40, Duration: 00m 52s
  • Jonathan Murray on the future of reality TVJonathan Murray on the future of reality TV
    Clip begins at: 18:28, Duration: 00m 53s

Interview

  • Part 1
  • On his childhood and early influences; on his early interest in television; on the impact An American Family had on him; on enjoying documentaries; on becoming News Director of his campus TV station at SUNY Geneseo; on transferring to the University of Missouri to learn journalism and broadcast news
    Clip begins at: 0:26
  • On producing TV news in Green Bay, Wisconsin and Rochester, NY; on getting into programming and starting to produce documentaries; on what he learned from working in local news
    Clip begins at: 09:41
  • On creating Crime Diaries, meeting production partner Mary-Ellis Bunim and forming a production company, Bunim-Murray Productions; on creating the show American Families
    Clip begins at: 16:35
  • On the creation of The Real World and the show changing from scripted to unscripted; on the title of The Real World; on comparisons between An American Family, Survivor, and The Real World; on production on the pilot and using multiple cameras
    Clip begins at: 29:26
  • On casting the pilot and the first cast of The Real World; on the show giving MTV a lot of publicity and reinforcing MTV's brand; on Bunim-Murray's great working relationship with MTV; on the second season and legal troubles with the show; on Kevin and Julie's fight on the first season of The Real World; on hiring more staff for the following seasons
    Clip begins at: 40:55
  • On outlining episodes and editing The Real World; on the two unsuccessful attempts to steer the direction of the show
    Clip begins at: 53:12
  • Part 2
  • On editing The Real World; on how "real" The Real World is and the show being a "docu-soap"; on casting the show; on the diverse casts of The Real World and casting Pedro Zamora, who was HIV Positive, in the San Francisco cast (Season Three)
    Clip begins at: 0:0
  • On casting Puck for the San Francisco cast of The Real World; on Pedro's death; on having seven cast members; on the opening to The Real World: "this is the story of seven strangers..."; on Mary-Elis Bunim's soap opera background and his documentary background coming together on The Real World
    Clip begins at: 14:29
  • On the difficulty of casting the show and keeping it real now, after years of success; on The Real World confessional; on the term "reality television"; on rules for Real World cast members; on liability issues on the show; on repeating locations for the show and censorship
    Clip begins at: 24:25
  • On the question he gets ask most about The Real World; on what cast members get out of the experience; on the show's audience; on The Real World Challenges and reunions and keeping in touch with cast members; on the biggest challenges to producing The Real World
    Clip begins at: 40:02
  • On his favorite season of The Real World; on being in production on The Real World during 9/11; on the legacy of The Real World; on the creation of Road Rules
    Clip begins at: 49:32
  • Part 3
  • On the syndicated show Starting Over; on Mary-Ellis Bunim's death and her legacy
    Clip begins at: 0:0
  • On creating and casting The Simple Life; on drama between Paris Hilton and Nicole Richie; on what Paris Hilton and Nicole Richie took away from their experience on The Simple Life 
    Clip begins at: 14:45
  • On the documentary Autism: The Musical and other documentary projects; on the creation of The Bad Girls Club; on spinoffs and the creation of Keeping Up with the Kardashians; on why people love the Kardashians; on shooting Keeping Up with the Kardashians and what's off-limits on the show; on Kim Kardashian's marriage to Kris Humphries and how it affected Keeping Up with the Kardashians
    Clip begins at: 25:05
  • On his involvement with Project Runway; on changes he brought to Project Runway; on casting and shooting the show; on Tim Gunn and the Project Runway judges; on the show's influence on the fashion industry
    Clip begins at: 43:40
  • Part 4
  • On controversial wins on Project Runway (Gretchen over Mondo); on Mondo sharing that he is HIV positive; on the show's popularity; on the overall popularity of reality programming in recent years
    Clip begins at: 0:0
  • On the premise behind Making the Band; on the state of reality TV today (2011); on shows he watches and enjoys; on cable networks and reality programming; on critics of reality television; on the future of reality TV; on what he's learned about human nature from his work in reality TV; on hiring staff for reality shows
    Clip begins at: 08:02
  • On whether or not he would go on a reality show; on being referred to as a "pioneer of reality television"; on being inducted into the Television Hall of Fame; on current projects; on his proudest career achievement; on career regrets; on his mentor; on advice to someone wanting to get into reality television; on how he'd like to be remembered
    Clip begins at: 26:27

Shows

  • American Family, An
    • Jonathan Murray on the impact An American Family had on him
      Clip begins at: 05:00, Duration: 00m 43s
    • Jonathan Murray on comparisons between An American Family, Survivor, and The Real World
      Clip begins at: 35:08, Duration: 02m 06s
  • Bad Girls Club, The
    • Jonathan Murray on the creation of The Bad Girls Club
      Clip begins at: 31:02, Duration: 04m 30s
  • Green Acres
    • Jonathan Murray on The Simple Life as a real life Green Acres
      Clip begins at: 14:45, Duration: 01m 09s
  • Keeping Up with the Kardashians
    • Jonathan Murray on the creation and shooting of Keeping Up with the Kardashians
      Clip begins at: 35:32, Duration: 08m 08s
  • Leave it to Beaver
    • Jonathan Murray on loving Leave it to Beaver when he was a child
      Clip begins at: 03:35, Duration: 00m 31s
  • Loving
    • Jonathan Murray on Mary-Ellis Bunim taking a job on Loving in order to get by while waiting for one of their series to get picked up
      Clip begins at: 29:06, Duration: 00m 20s
  • Making the Band
    • Jonathan Murray on the premise behind Making the Band
      Clip begins at: 08:02, Duration: 02m 21s
  • Project Runway
    • Jonathan Murray on his involvement with Project Runway
      Clip begins at: 43:40, Duration: 14m 58s
    • Jonathan Murray on controversial wins on Project Runway (Gretchen over Mondo); on Mondo sharing that he is HIV positive; on the show's popularity
      Clip begins at: 00:00, Duration: 05m 41s
  • Real World, The
    • Jonathan Murray on the creation of The Real World, the show changing from scripted to unscripted, and production on the first season of the show
      Clip begins at: 29:26, Duration: 23m 46s
    • Jonathan Murray on outlining episodes and editing The Real World
      Clip begins at: 53:12, Duration: 05m 06s
    • Jonathan Murray on editing, the realness, casting and confessional on The Real World
      Clip begins at: 00:00, Duration: 43m 56s
    • Jonathan Murray on the audience of The Real World, keeping in touch with cast members, 9/11, and the show's legacy
      Clip begins at: 43:56, Duration: 11m 06s
    • Jonathan Murray on keeping reality TV fresh and creating spinoffs and new concepts from successful shows
      Clip begins at: 05:41, Duration: 01m 43s
  • Road Rules
    • Jonathan Murray on the creation of Road Rules
      Clip begins at: 55:02, Duration: 04m 33s
  • Simple Life, The
    • Jonathan Murray on the creation, casting, and cancellation of The Simple Life
      Clip begins at: 14:45, Duration: 10m 20s
  • Starting Over
    • Jonathan Murray on the syndicated show Starting Over
      Clip begins at: 00:00, Duration: 09m 19s
  • Survivor
    • Jonathan Murray on comparisons between An American Family, Survivor, and The Real World
      Clip begins at: 35:08, Duration: 00m 56s

People

  • Mary-Ellis Bunim
    • Jonathan Murray on meeting production partner Mary-Ellis Bunim and his first impressions of her
      Clip begins at: 16:35, Duration: 06m 17s
    • Jonathan Murray on being inducted into the Television Hall of Fame
      Clip begins at: 27:49, Duration: 01m 13s
    • Jonathan Murray on the creation of The Real World and the show changing from scripted to unscripted
      Clip begins at: 29:26, Duration: 04m 18s
    • Jonathan Murray on Mary-Elis Bunim's soap background contributing to The Real World
      Clip begins at: 21:39, Duration: 02m 46s
    • Jonathan Murray on Mary-Ellis Bunim's experience in soap operas being vital to Starting Over and on Mary-Elis' breast cancer reoccurring
      Clip begins at: 07:46, Duration: 01m 33s
    • Jonathan Murray on Mary-Ellis Bunim's death and her legacy
      Clip begins at: 09:19, Duration: 05m 26s
  • Mike Darnell
    • Jonathan Murray on the creation of The Simple Life
      Clip begins at: 14:45, Duration: 02m 45s
  • Barry Diller
    • Jonathan Murray on Barry Diller liking his documentary series American Families
      Clip begins at: 26:53, Duration: 01m 20s
  • Paris Hilton
    • Jonathan Murray on what Paris Hilton and Nicole Richie took away from their experience on The Simple Life
      Clip begins at: 24:01, Duration: 01m 04s
    • Jonathan Murray on casting The Simple Life
      Clip begins at: 17:30, Duration: 04m 36s
  • Heidi Klum
    • Jonathan Murray on Project Runway and host Heidi Klum
      Clip begins at: 47:11, Duration: 01m 31s
    • Jonathan Murray on host Heidi Klum's contributions to casting and challenges on Project Runway
      Clip begins at: 52:20, Duration: 02m 06s
  • Nicole Richie
    • Jonathan Murray on what Paris Hilton and Nicole Richie took away from their experience on The Simple Life
      Clip begins at: 24:01, Duration: 01m 04s
    • Jonathan Murray on casting The Simple Life
      Clip begins at: 17:30, Duration: 04m 36s
  • Ryan Seacrest
    • Jonathan Murray on the creation of Keeping Up with the Kardashians
      Clip begins at: 36:26, Duration: 03m 06s

Topics

  • Emmy Awards
    • Jonathan Murray on winning his first Emmy for Starting Over
      Clip begins at: 07:10, Duration: 00m 36s
  • Historic Events and Social Change > 9/11
    • Jonathan Murray on being in production on The Real World during 9/11
      Clip begins at: 51:10, Duration: 02m 51s
  • Historic Events and Social Change > Diversity in Television
    • Jonathan Murray on the diverse cast of The Real World
      Clip begins at: 12:51, Duration: 01m 38s
  • Memorable Moments on Television
    • Jonathan Murray on Kevin and Julie's fight on the first season of The Real World
      Clip begins at: 49:51, Duration: 00m 42s
  • Television Industry > Censorship / Standards & Practices
    • Jonathan Murray on censorship on The Real World
      Clip begins at: 37:56, Duration: 02m 06s
    • Jonathan Murray on what's off limits on Keeping Up with the Kardashians
      Clip begins at: 41:13, Duration: 01m 44s
  • Television Industry > Criticism of TV
    • Jonathan Murray on critics of reality television
      Clip begins at: 16:39, Duration: 01m 49s

Genres

  • News and Documentary
    • Jonathan Murray on the documentary Autism: The Musical
      Clip begins at: 25:05, Duration: 03m 39s
  • Reality TV
    • Jonathan Murray on the impact An American Family had on him
      Clip begins at: 05:00, Duration: 00m 43s
    • Jonathan Murray on the creation of The Real World 
      Clip begins at: 49:51, Duration: 00m 42s
    • Jonathan Murray on outlining episodes and editing The Real World
      Clip begins at: 53:12, Duration: 05m 06s
    • Jonathan Murray on The Real World
      Clip begins at: 00:00, Duration: 55m 02s
    • Jonathan Murray on the style of reality television influencing scripted TV and commercials
      Clip begins at: 29:41, Duration: 00m 22s
    • Jonathan Murray on the term "reality television"
      Clip begins at: 30:03, Duration: 02m 16s
    • Jonathan Murray on the creation of Road Rules
      Clip begins at: 55:02, Duration: 04m 33s
    • Jonathan Murray on the creation, casting, and cancellation of The Simple Life
      Clip begins at: 14:45, Duration: 10m 20s
    • Jonathan Murray on the creation and shooting of Keeping Up with the Kardashians
      Clip begins at: 35:32, Duration: 08m 08s
    • Jonathan Murray on the creation of The Bad Girls Club
      Clip begins at: 31:02, Duration: 04m 30s
    • Jonathan Murray on his involvement with Project Runway
      Clip begins at: 43:40, Duration: 14m 58s
    • Jonathan Murray on controversial wins on Project Runway (Gretchen over Mondo); on Mondo sharing that he is HIV positive; on the show's popularity
      Clip begins at: 00:00, Duration: 05m 41s
    • Jonathan Murray on the overall popularity of reality programming in recent years
      Clip begins at: 05:41, Duration: 02m 21s
    • Jonathan Murray on the premise behind Making the Band
      Clip begins at: 08:02, Duration: 02m 21s
    • Jonathan Murray on the state of reality TV today (2011)
      Clip begins at: 10:23, Duration: 01m 50s
    • Jonathan Murray on critics of reality television, the future of reality TV, and cast members on shows
      Clip begins at: 16:39, Duration: 04m 59s
    • Jonathan Murray on what he's learned about human nature from his work in reality TV
      Clip begins at: 21:38, Duration: 01m 57s

Professions

  • Producer
    • Jonathan Murray on starting to produce documentaries
      Clip begins at: 12:28, Duration: 02m 28s
    • Jonathan Murray on his involvement in editing The Real World
      Clip begins at: 00:00, Duration: 04m 45s
    • Jonathan Murray on the biggest challenges to producing The Real World
      Clip begins at: 48:04, Duration: 01m 28s
    • Jonathan Murray on hiring staff for reality shows
      Clip begins at: 23:35, Duration: 03m 19s
    • Jonathan Murray on being inducted into the Television Hall of Fame
      Clip begins at: 27:49, Duration: 01m 13s
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    This interviewee was inducted into the Television Academy Hall of Fame, an honor bestowed upon individuals who have made extraordinary contributions to television. For more information about this award, click here.

Submitted by Lydia from DC on Tue, 2012-02-28 15:10.

Excellent interview!

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