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Madelyn Pugh Davis

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"We never had to argue about what was funny. We just argued about the temperature of the room."

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"Bob said, ‘I don't want to get tied down, I'll give it a year.' We've been writing together, it'll be 50 years -- and he wasn't sure it would work out," Madelyn Pugh Davis laughs. Bob Carroll Jr. (1918-2007) and writing partner Madelyn Pugh Davis (1921-2011) first began writing for radio as a team in about 1946; in television they were writers on every one of Lucille Ball's series. In their Archive interview, each briefly recounts their early years and influences and then sit together for a career-spanning interview which begins with their work in radio for such legends as Steve Allen. They eventually became writers on radio's My Favorite Husband , which starred Lucille Ball. When Ball made the transition to television with I Love Lucy , producer Jess Oppenheimer hired the team as writers. During the interview they discuss in great length the process of writing for I Love Lucy and the immense talents of the cast. They recount how some of the classic scenes came about (including the candy factory scene) and how production of the show was done. They briefly discuss working on Ball's subsequent series and as well as a few non-Lucy sitcoms including Alice . When Lucille Ball returned to television in 1986 for her ill-fated Life With Lucy, Carroll and Davis were there, too, although Davis admits "none of us should have done it." They conclude the interview with their thoughts on the legacy of I Love Lucy and the timelessness of the series. Bob Carroll, Jr. (1918-2007) and Madelyn Pugh Davis were interviewed in Los Angeles, CA on November 24, 1997; Tom Gilbert conducted the two-and-a-half-hour interview (including individual interviews about their early years running approximately 10 minutes each).

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  • Alice
  • Here's Lucy
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  • I Love Lucy: "Job Switching"
  • I Love Lucy: "Lucy Does a TV Commercial"
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  • Lucy Show, The aka Here's Lucy
  • Mothers-In-Law, The
  • My Favorite Husband
  • Those Whiting Girls
  • Tom Ewell Show, The

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  • Steve Allen
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  • Keith Thibodeaux

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  • Comedy
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  • Studio Management
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Madelyn Pugh Davis Autobiography

Autobiography: Laughing with Lucy: My Life with America's Leading Lady of Comedy

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Highlights

  • Bob Carroll, Jr. &amp; Madelyn Pugh Davis on the timelessness of <i>I Love Lucy</i>Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on the timelessness of I Love Lucy
    Clip begins at: 10:45, Duration: 01m 37s
  • Bob Carroll, Jr. &amp; Madelyn Pugh Davis on the first reviews of <i>I Love Lucy</i>Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on the first reviews of I Love Lucy
    Clip begins at: 21:28, Duration: 01m 12s
  • Bob Carroll, Jr. &amp; Madelyn Pugh Davis on Lucille Ball doing "vitameatavegamin" in one takeBob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on Lucille Ball doing "vitameatavegamin" in one take
    Clip begins at: 08:32, Duration: 00m 39s
  • Bob Carroll, Jr. &amp; Madelyn Pugh Davis on Lucy's nose "catching fire" on an episode of <i>I Love Lucy</i> <BR/>Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on Lucy's nose "catching fire" on an episode of I Love Lucy
    Clip begins at: 13:18, Duration: 01m 33s

Interview

  • Part 1
  • Madelyn Pugh Davis on her early years and her start in radio before teaming up with writing partner Bob Carroll, Jr.
    Clip begins at: 0:61
  • Bob Carroll, Jr. on his early years and start in radio before teaming up with writing partner Madelyn Pugh Davis
    Clip begins at: 15:32
  • Part 2
  • On teaming up as writing partners on the Ethel & Albert radio comedy, The Couple Next Door
    Clip begins at: 0:39
  • On their early radio work and on their writing style in-general
    Clip begins at: 01:30
  • On working on Steve Allen's radio show and leaving to work on My Favorite Husband
    Clip begins at: 04:18
  • On working on the radio show My Favorite Husband and working with Lucille Ball for the first time
    Clip begins at: 06:14
  • On the initial development, character creation, and production details of I Love Lucy
    Clip begins at: 16:43
  • On the origin of the name "Mertz" and how Desi Arnaz's accent played into the comedy of I Love Lucy
    Clip begins at: 26:47
  • Part 3
  • On bringing I Love Lucy to television
    Clip begins at: 0:57
  • On working with Desi Arnaz and Lucille Ball
    Clip begins at: 05:56
  • On the writing and production on I Love Lucy
    Clip begins at: 15:29
  • Part 4
  • On writing the pilot of I Love Lucy
    Clip begins at: 0:64
  • On I Love Lucy getting sold and writing the first scripts
    Clip begins at: 03:11
  • On writing Lucy Ricardo's pregnancy episodes when Lucille Ball became pregnant
    Clip begins at: 09:38
  • On the Blacklist and Lucille Ball being accused Communist affiliations
    Clip begins at: 15:23
  • On writing the move of the Ricardos to Hollywood on I Love Lucy
    Clip begins at: 18:03
  • On the growth in popularity of I Love Lucy after its premiere
    Clip begins at: 21:28
  • On Those Whiting Girls and the addition of Bob Schiller & Bob Weiskopf to the I Love Lucy writing staff
    Clip begins at: 25:09
  • On the treatment of women writers and producers
    Clip begins at: 27:08
  • Part 5
  • On I Love Lucy and the Emmy Awards; Jess Oppenheimer's departure
    Clip begins at: 0:49
  • On aging "Little Ricky" on I Love Lucy and the casting of Keith Thibodeaux
    Clip begins at: 03:51
  • On moving I Love Lucy's Ricardos to Connecticut and the new sets
    Clip begins at: 05:03
  • On the hourlong I Love Lucy shows (Lucy-Desi Comedy Hour )
    Clip begins at: 06:34
  • On writing specific classic episodes of I Love Lucy
    Clip begins at: 08:32
  • On working for Desi Arnaz as consultants at Desilu after I Love Lucy went off the air
    Clip begins at: 17:10
  • On working on The Tom Ewell Show
    Clip begins at: 21:18
  • On the end of Lucy and Desi's marriage and subsequent work with Lucy on Broadway
    Clip begins at: 22:13
  • On producing The Lucy Show
    Clip begins at: 25:13
  • Part 6
  • On working with Desi Arnaz and others on various projects including Here's Lucy
    Clip begins at: 0:54
  • On producing Alice and Dorothy
    Clip begins at: 05:47
  • On producing Life with Lucy
    Clip begins at: 09:33
  • On the legacy of I Love Lucy and how they'd like to be remembered
    Clip begins at: 11:06

Shows

  • Alice
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on producing Alice
      Clip begins at: 05:48, Duration: 02m 37s
  • Here's Lucy
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on their work on Here's Lucy
      Clip begins at: 03:27, Duration: 02m 20s
  • I Love Lucy
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on meeting Lucille Ball when they were writers on her radio show
      Clip begins at: 11:23, Duration: 02m 28s
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on the development of I Love Lucy
      Clip begins at: 16:43, Duration: 12m 25s
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on transitioning from radio's My Favorite Husband to TV's I Love Lucy
      Clip begins at: 00:57, Duration: 02m 21s
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on the inspiration for the pizza-making scene in the "Visitor From Italy"  (aired October 29, 1956) episode of I Love Lucy
      Clip begins at: 03:18, Duration: 01m 08s
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on working with Desi Arnaz; they also detail the production of I Love Lucy
      Clip begins at: 04:26, Duration: 11m 33s
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on writing I Love Lucy
      Clip begins at: 16:29, Duration: 13m 36s
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on the show being sold; and writing the scripts for I Love Lucy
      Clip begins at: 01:04, Duration: 08m 34s
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on Lucy Ricardo's pregnancy storyline on I Love Lucy
      Clip begins at: 09:38, Duration: 04m 29s
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on the decision to move the Ricardos to Hollywood on I Love Lucy
      Clip begins at: 18:03, Duration: 02m 28s
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on writing for guest stars on I Love Lucy and how the episode, "L.A. at Last" (aired February 7, 1955) with William Holden 
      Clip begins at: 20:31, Duration: 00m 30s
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on writing specific classic episodes of I Love Lucy
      Clip begins at: 08:32, Duration: 08m 38s
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on the timelessness of I Love Lucy
      Clip begins at: 10:45, Duration: 01m 37s
  • I Love Lucy: "Job Switching"
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on writing the I Love Lucy episode "Job Switching" (candy factory)
      Clip begins at: 10:38, Duration: 00m 43s
  • I Love Lucy: "Lucy Does a TV Commercial"
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on Lucille Ball doing "vitameatavegamin" in one take
      Clip begins at: 08:32, Duration: 00m 39s
  • Life With Lucy
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on producing Life with Lucy
      Clip begins at: 09:33, Duration: 01m 12s
  • Lucy Show, The aka Here's Lucy
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on working on The Lucy Show
      Clip begins at: 28:29, Duration: 01m 52s
  • Mothers-In-Law, The
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on The Mothers-In-Law
      Clip begins at: 02:10, Duration: 01m 17s
  • My Favorite Husband
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on writing for radio's My Favorite Husband
      Clip begins at: 05:30, Duration: 13m 03s
  • Those Whiting Girls
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. &ƒ Madelyn Pugh Davis briefly on working on Those Whiting Girls at Desilu
      Clip begins at: 25:09, Duration: 00m 59s
  • Tom Ewell Show, The
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on creating The Tom Ewell Show
      Clip begins at: 21:18, Duration: 00m 55s

People

  • Steve Allen
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on writing for Steve Allen's radio show, It's a Great Life
      Clip begins at: 04:18, Duration: 01m 12s
  • Desi Arnaz
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on how Desi Arnaz worked with writers on I Love Lucy
      Clip begins at: 07:24, Duration: 01m 20s
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on working with Desi Arnaz after I Love Lucy
      Clip begins at: 19:08, Duration: 06m 05s
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on the breakup of Lucy and Desi's marriage
      Clip begins at: 22:13, Duration: 01m 07s
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on Desi Arnaz
      Clip begins at: 19:13, Duration: 00m 12s
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on using Desi Arnaz's accent for comedic effect on I Love Lucy
      Clip begins at: 27:35, Duration: 00m 51s
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on Desi Arnaz and his management style
      Clip begins at: 05:56, Duration: 05m 01s
  • Lucille Ball
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on audiences' love for Lucille Ball
      Clip begins at: 14:51, Duration: 01m 02s
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on the breakup of Lucy and Desi's marriage
      Clip begins at: 22:13, Duration: 01m 07s
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on producing Life with Lucy
      Clip begins at: 09:33, Duration: 01m 12s
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis briefly on Lucille Ball's success
      Clip begins at: 19:25, Duration: 00m 22s
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on meeting Lucille Ball when they were writers on her radio show
      Clip begins at: 11:23, Duration: 02m 28s
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on writing for Lucille Ball
      Clip begins at: 03:18, Duration: 01m 08s
  • Bob Carroll, Jr.
    • Madelyn Pugh Davis on first meeting her future writing partner, Bob Carroll, Jr.
      Clip begins at: 13:27, Duration: 01m 27s
  • Marc Daniels
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on working with director Marc Daniels on I Love Lucy and Alice
      Clip begins at: 14:43, Duration: 01m 16s
  • William Frawley
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on how William Frawley was cast as Fred Mertz on I Love Lucy
      Clip begins at: 17:56, Duration: 01m 22s
  • Karl Freund
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on director of photography Karl Freund's work on I Love Lucy
      Clip begins at: 22:04, Duration: 01m 40s
  • Wilbur Hatch
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on working with I Love Lucy bandleader Wilbur Hatch
      Clip begins at: 17:34, Duration: 00m 22s
  • William Holden
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on the I Love Lucy episode "L.A. at Last" (where Lucy's nose catches fire)
      Clip begins at: 13:18, Duration: 01m 33s
  • Polly Holliday
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on working with Polly Holliday on Alice
      Clip begins at: 13:34, Duration: 00m 35s
  • Jess Oppenheimer
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on their writing process on I Love Lucy
      Clip begins at: 22:10, Duration: 05m 18s
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on working on I Love Lucy with Jess Oppenheimer
      Clip begins at: 04:58, Duration: 00m 57s
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on writing I Love Lucy and Jess Oppenheimer writing the final draft
      Clip begins at: 26:08, Duration: 01m 00s
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on Jess Oppenheimer leaving I Love Lucy
      Clip begins at: 02:27, Duration: 01m 24s
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on Jess Oppenheimer
      Clip begins at: 19:03, Duration: 00m 10s
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on working with producer Jess Oppenheimer on I Love Lucy
      Clip begins at: 14:58, Duration: 01m 17s
  • Madelyn Pugh Davis
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. on meeting his future writing partner, Madelyn Pugh Davis
      Clip begins at: 22:28, Duration: 02m 12s
  • Martha Raye
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on working with Martha Raye on Alice
      Clip begins at: 16:55, Duration: 00m 22s
  • Bob Schiller & Bob Weiskopf
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on the addition of the writing team of Bob Schiller & Bob Weiskopf to I Love Lucy
      Clip begins at: 26:08, Duration: 01m 00s
  • Alan Shayne
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on working with TV executive Alan Shayne on Alice
      Clip begins at: 06:43, Duration: 01m 27s
  • Vic Tayback
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on working with Vic Tayback on Alice
      Clip begins at: 14:28, Duration: 00m 23s
  • Keith Thibodeaux
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis aging "Little Ricky" and casting Keith Thibodeaux on I Love Lucy
      Clip begins at: 03:51, Duration: 01m 12s
  • Vivian Vance
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on working with1 I Love Lucy's Vivian Vance
      Clip begins at: 19:18, Duration: 01m 44s

Topics

  • Emmy Awards
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on producer I Love Lucy and the Emmy Awards
      Clip begins at: 00:49, Duration: 01m 38s
  • Historic Events and Social Change > Diversity in Television > Women
    • Madelyn Pugh Davis on working on the "social page" as opposed to news in radio
      Clip begins at: 06:04, Duration: 02m 31s
    • Madelyn Pugh Davis on being one of the first female writers hired at CBS radio
      Clip begins at: 11:21, Duration: 01m 18s
    • Madelyn Pugh Davis (with Bob Carroll, Jr.) on the early treatment of female radio and television writers and producers
      Clip begins at: 27:08, Duration: 01m 57s
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on the treatment of female producers
      Clip begins at: 08:25, Duration: 00m 43s
  • Memorable Moments on Television > We Laughed
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on the I Love Lucy episode "Lucy is Enciente," where she tells Ricky she's pregnant
      Clip begins at: 13:20, Duration: 00m 47s
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on the I Love Lucy episode "Lucy Does a Commercial" (Vitameatavegamin)
      Clip begins at: 08:32, Duration: 00m 39s
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on the birth of "Little Ricky" on I Love Lucy
      Clip begins at: 09:11, Duration: 00m 57s
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on writing the I Love Lucy episode "Job Switching" (candy factory)
      Clip begins at: 10:28, Duration: 01m 03s
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on the I Love Lucy episode "Lucy's Italian Movie" (grape stomping)
      Clip begins at: 12:26, Duration: 00m 52s
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on the I Love Lucy episode "L.A. at Last" (nose catches fire)
      Clip begins at: 13:18, Duration: 01m 33s
  • Pop Culture > Classic TV series episodes > Comedy
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on the I Love Lucy episode "Lucy Does a Commercial" (Vitameatavegamin)
      Clip begins at: 08:32, Duration: 00m 39s
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on writing the I Love Lucy episode "Job Switching" (candy factory)
      Clip begins at: 10:28, Duration: 01m 03s
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on the I Love Lucy episode "Lucy's Italian Movie" (grape stomping)
      Clip begins at: 12:26, Duration: 00m 52s
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on the I Love Lucy episode "L.A. at Last" (nose catches fire)
      Clip begins at: 13:18, Duration: 01m 33s
  • Television Industry > Industry Crossroads > Hollywood Blacklist (ca. 1950s)
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on the Blacklist and Lucille Ball's being branded a Communist during I Love Lucy
      Clip begins at: 15:23, Duration: 02m 40s
  • Television Industry > Studio Management
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis briefly on working at Desilu
      Clip begins at: 16:29, Duration: 01m 19s

Genres

  • Comedy Series
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on the preparations to film I Love Lucy in Hollywood 
      Clip begins at: 19:42, Duration: 04m 02s
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on thd timelessness of I Love Lucy
      Clip begins at: 10:45, Duration: 01m 37s

Professions

  • Writers & Show Creators > Writer
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on their working style in their writing partnership
      Clip begins at: 01:30, Duration: 02m 48s
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on their writing process on I Love Lucy
      Clip begins at: 22:10, Duration: 05m 18s
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on scripting I Love Lucy's physical comedy
      Clip begins at: 28:26, Duration: 00m 47s
    • Bob Carroll, Jr. & Madelyn Pugh Davis on writing for Lucille Ball
      Clip begins at: 06:24, Duration: 02m 20s
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Submitted by FXDD on Sat, 2012-07-14 11:17.

I enjoyed the interview. Very fun to watch. Its worth to watch.

Submitted by macksennett on Thu, 2011-04-21 21:28.

Thanks for the laughs Madelyn!

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